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including financing costs. The big component will be construction cost. If we can get <br />~ a conservative number for gmp, we can manage that. We can do what Alan was talking <br />about to some degree, present a higher level of confidence with more bids on certain <br />pieces. Curt's ideal budget would $25 million from general contractor's position. Alan <br />would want to go to $27.5 million with a 5% allowance, but would try and come in at the <br />$25 million. If it would come in over $25 million from the dd level to bid process, then <br />would treat it similaz to change orders. <br />Mark added if the owners risk is satisfactorily managed, we have answer for the market. <br />Some variant will work with a high confidence level, outside number for construction <br />costs and resources identified sufficient to cover. <br />Discussions came back to the ti's role in developing a good gmp. County needs to decide <br />on the type of ti's we want and go from there. If we deviate from this plan, the costs <br />will go up. If the architect can have offices, open office space, work areas designated, it <br />would take 30 - 60 days to come up with design. County and Transit will commit to <br />providing this information. Pence Kelly would like reflected ceiling plan and they could <br />use one lobby plan as a scale to determine soft pricing. The architect would have a staff <br />person able to work with County and transit next week to talk space utilization. It is our <br />goal to give the best numbers that we can provide for the project. <br />Conversation went back to moving start date to September 1, allowing Pence Kelly <br />additional time to be closer on their numbers for gmp. It was determined that even with <br />~ a September 1 start date, it is reasonable to complete the project within the 18-19 months <br />construction timeframe, but still allowing some flexibility if necessary for the end of <br />construction. <br />The question was asked what is gmp? Curt replied that it is a guaranteed maximum <br />price and not going over that price. Working with the approach outlined if we fund at <br />the lower level with Alan's proposal, if the County sells $25 million in bonds, but we <br />need $27 million in the end, it doesn't mean the contingency is not there. Curt had <br />concern about the possibility of potential litigation involved if someone didn't bid the <br />right costs. If I throw out a gmp of $25 million, what am I guaranteeing if bids go up. <br />There are certain elements of work we need to look at: one is code and 2nd market <br />conditions. The key would be for Curt to take dd drawings and get as much information <br />as possible, and a11ow a 4 or 7% contingency. The documents go through completion. <br />Issues get resolved along the way when they are talked about. When Curt does this and <br />bonds are sold for $25 million, you aze probably looking at 10% cushion to be developed <br />and justified like the change order process. Pence Kelly was asked if they could live <br />with this. The gmp can remain with Pence Kelly and then the County canies <br />contingency for any unknowns. We can't carry for mazket conditions. The September <br />date gives us more comfort to obtain a refined allowance for ti's. <br />What's the process and timing to narrow the code egposure? Both Curt and Alan <br />~ said that this is subject to interpretation. Changes could be made. Discussions <br />4 <br />