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example. Population growth was the first factor being considered, he <br />added, then staff needs. - <br />Ralph Grim said he hoped the departments had looked at it realistically. <br />They were told how much space a clerk and other staff would need and <br />the report was based on that information. Ken Roudybush added that <br />the figures his department submitted were not what was included in the <br />final report. Those figures were inflated by the consultants. <br />Ken Sherman's concern, he said, was that we're talking about $100 <br />million. We have to have a plan to convince people of the need. Checks <br />and balances need to be built in. <br />Jack Munro asked if there was any evidence elsewhere upon which <br />proJections could be based. <br />Randy Curtis noted that staff growth since 1980 has been reduced <br />because of consolidation of departments and programs. The proposed <br />Tri-Agency Law Enforcement consolidation, for example, may be able to <br />save $4-6 million. <br />Mark Caillier agreed that the scan and computer are drawing us into a <br />paper-less organization. He added there are state, federal or other <br />occupation standards for building, and that we could face the problem <br />that the Salem Police Department had in 1973; when they moved into <br />their new facility, it was already too small. <br />Larry Oglesby suggested that space standards be applied to what the <br />consultants are given, making sure that the departments can verify staff <br />projections. It is better, he felt, to work with the maximum and to scale <br />back as the plan is developed than the other way around. The <br />architectural firm, he added, cannot second guess how staff will grow. <br />Bob Royer noted that we have not been very successful in getting <br />increased staff. The level of staffing may be in doubt. On the other <br />hand, he feels that in terms of service that must be maintained, the <br />- figures for staff are not unrealistic. = <br />Ken Sherman said he was more concerned about the numbers of <br />employees per 1000 population. He asked if growth figures could be <br />obtained from other sources. Randy Curtis said he thought that might <br />be possible. He does not believe the number of staff per thousand is a <br />good guideline. It has nothing to do with the productivity our figures use. <br />Ruth Johnson suggested that comparing one county to another <br />statistically may reveal the difference. Lydia Buchanan mentioned that <br />waiting five hours for infant shots is not good business. Ruth Johnson <br /> <br />